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Old 06-22-2005, 09:39 AM
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You're right -- it actually isn't bad, and some items are quite good, especially considering the whole "institutional food" problem (scale). There was a point with a past food service where the only dinner options available were 1) the food in the main line 2) a terrible salad bar 3) cereal 4) ice cream. No deli, not always pasta, no grill. Chicken patties were actually a great item since they couldn't be messed up. There was a decent chance that the milk coming out of the dispenser was sour, and the juice machines routinely started souring/fermenting the juice. Unless you wanted a mouthfull of fizzy grapefruit juice or turned milk, you had to sniff test first. And this wasn't an occasional thing -- these were day-to-day problems. And from what I understand, the food service just before that one was only half a step up from serving reconsituted powdered eggs. Trust me, this is actually pretty good (and I have eaten the food served by Aramark).
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:41 AM
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The other problem in addition to the issues of scaling recipes and preparation for so many students is just the plain fact of money. I did some calculations, just for fun to see what the money gap is. This is what I did:

I took the number of days in the semester (110 for Fall 2005) minus days we aren't here (Thanksgiving - 4 days). Which gives me (106 days for meals). I multiplied that by 3 for the number of meal in a semester (318 meals per student).

I then took a random number for the price per meal at a casual dining restaurant, I used 10 dollars. I multiplied that out by number of meals and we get 3,180 dollars a semester for food.

The current Drew student pays 1,487 dollars for semester for board on the 7 day dining plan (according to the Drew website).

So the thing is, if you expect something you would get at a Casual restaurant(say Fridays, Chilis, Applebees, Outback, etc.) There is a need for a lot more money to be paid for that kind of food.

Feel Free to dispute my logic on this, but it was mostly a curiousity on how much a student would pay if they just went out for every meal.
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:46 AM
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I would have to say, that I've experienced the food at several colleges, and Drew's food is by far the best. I'm not saying everynight is excellent, but any time I've ever gone its been edible at worst. I'm a commuter and so I go to the commons by choice, and I find myself there several times a weeks because it costs only $6.50 for a lot of food and a lot of selection. That combined with pretty decent food makes the commons a resonable choice for dinner for a penny pinching college student like my self.
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Old 06-22-2005, 12:44 PM
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I then took a random number for the price per meal at a casual dining restaurant, I used 10 dollars. I multiplied that out by number of meals and we get 3,180 dollars a semester for food.

The current Drew student pays 1,487 dollars for semester for board on the 7 day dining plan (according to the Drew website).

So the thing is, if you expect something you would get at a Casual restaurant(say Fridays, Chilis, Applebees, Outback, etc.) There is a need for a lot more money to be paid for that kind of food.

That's a good reference, but also, there are economies of scale here. It costs less per serving when you're making 800 meals a night than 50. Also, they don't serve us at the table, so they don't need to pay as many people to work there per person that eats.

Also, I'm not sure what kind of profit margins (if any) they're supposed to be making. If they're not supposed to be making a profit here, then that cuts down on price.

But this was definately a good thing to think about. There's nowhere else you could get that amount of food for under $5.
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:15 PM
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That's a good reference, but also, there are economies of scale here. It costs less per serving when you're making 800 meals a night than 50. Also, they don't serve us at the table, so they don't need to pay as many people to work there per person that eats.

Also, I'm not sure what kind of profit margins (if any) they're supposed to be making. If they're not supposed to be making a profit here, then that cuts down on price.

But this was definately a good thing to think about. There's nowhere else you could get that amount of food for under $5.

I believe they are a for-profit company, so they do want to make a profit. The common casual dining restaurant are making a decent number of meals and I was using the lower cost per meal since you can easily spend much more than that and also you usually figure in tips there too.

Also since they have to cook for 800 at a time they need much more people to prepare the food so that it can ready for that many people in a shorter time as opposed to a restaurant that has a lot less tables and can space out the cooking over a longer period of time.

But yes it can't be an exact match because of the situations, I guess it would have been better to compare Drew's food service with a random buffet restaurant and see how it compares.
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:49 PM
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Yeah, it's still a good deal, though. Buffets by me (at least, chinese buffets, I don't think there are any other ones) are 9 or 10 bucks. And I don't think that includes a drink.

I really should get to some more often. Or just remember the prices.
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:04 PM
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if my feces were green when I shat them out in the past, then the food probably isn't treating me well.
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:33 PM
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The other problem in addition to the issues of scaling recipes and preparation for so many students is just the plain fact of money. I did some calculations, just for fun to see what the money gap is. This is what I did:

I took the number of days in the semester (110 for Fall 2005) minus days we aren't here (Thanksgiving - 4 days). Which gives me (106 days for meals). I multiplied that by 3 for the number of meal in a semester (318 meals per student).

I then took a random number for the price per meal at a casual dining restaurant, I used 10 dollars. I multiplied that out by number of meals and we get 3,180 dollars a semester for food.

The current Drew student pays 1,487 dollars for semester for board on the 7 day dining plan (according to the Drew website).

So the thing is, if you expect something you would get at a Casual restaurant(say Fridays, Chilis, Applebees, Outback, etc.) There is a need for a lot more money to be paid for that kind of food.

Feel Free to dispute my logic on this, but it was mostly a curiousity on how much a student would pay if they just went out for every meal.


Actually on weekends they only serve 2 meals, but your logic stands just the same. It also might be somethign to point out since we essentially have an all you can eat buffet, it would probably be more per a person at a restaurant than 10$. And we get unlimited drinks (which is espescially attractive on a hot day after playing out in the sun).
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Old 07-22-2005, 11:30 PM
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:16 AM
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sure, it might be better than other colleges, but whenever someone tries to tell me that in the middle of a semester, it's a little hard to hear since by that time i've been eating practically the same thing every day for 2 months.
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